Subverting the subversion of the 4B Movement, its parallels to the Chinese Cultural Revolution's 4 Olds, and spicy free advice the NYT's "Unspoken Grief of Never Becoming a Grandparent"
One thing that struck me in the above piece was the comment: "...get an education in education" so you can teach and/or be around kids. Unless you're getting a degree from someplace like Hillsdale, you will likely just be educated in the prevailing, subversive anti-family ideology. My wife and I are childless by choice. She's a child of an acrimonious divorce, and my parents never said a word one way or the other about children. I never felt like I needed children to be fulfilled, and frankly never felt mature enough to take on the task. My regret now, at 70, is precisely that I could have raised a conservative culture warrior if I had known then what I know now. What I do know now is that we need a much more explicit pro-family policy by our government and in our public discourse. Inculcate that children are a virtue, and have economic policies in place that encourage it.
It's quite clear from the photo, Elijah Birk is swimming in an estrogen stew. Soft features, moobs (man boobs) and a kitchen full of processed seed oils are evident. One can almost smell the glade plug-ins, scented detergents and fabric softeners.
I agree that the shaving heads and saying they won't have sex thing is idiotic, performative, and hopefully a brief stunt that these young women will grow out of. But again... some percentage of people just don't want kids. I am fifty and I never wanted children. It's been a long time since men were raised to be husbands and fathers, and I don't put all the blame on them either. Ongoing war between the genders will never result in a happy society, or in well-adjusted children.
I asked exactly that question over at Owen Cass's place. I think it is yet another manifestation of America is fine but the United States isn't. People need to stop conflating the two. Let the cities die. Maybe 5 generations from now we can think about recolonization but why.
In the field of Psychology/Human Development known as Family Systems Theory, it is considered a harbinger of family system problems manifested in individuals to see several siblings in a family not marrying/reproducing. It is signifying "evolutionary dead-end" for that family system, which is firmly against the evolutionary drive.
Of course, seeking Homeostasis is the thing. No extremes. Childlessness indicates problems of one kind or another, but so does far too many children who cannot be reasonably supported by the parents. The Middle Way is where you want to go.
That being said, we definitely have an evolutionary problem with childlessness and ending family systems in developed countries. It is more an emotional/psychological problem than an economic problem. In the Great Depression of the 1930s, people were still having large families and finding ways to get through.
OK, Yuri. If you are having a snit-fit today in making a point of leaving your little red hearts on every post except mine....you are no better in your resentment and bitterness than those women you are writing about.
Why so resentful? Because I write the truth? And I back it up? Isn't that what you supposedly admire, rather than resent? Aren't you being contrary to your own beliefs?
There are too many "conservative" Substacks where the authors react in exactly the same way as the WOKE if you present a point of view that does not entirely reflect their own. Or adds to it. They usually use the same cancel culture tactics of calling you out or shunning you, and then banning.
Well Yuri, the only solace I take (regularly) is that those that aren’t reproducing won’t be passing on the likely transmissible mind virus to another generation. Mostly based gigachads and based tradwives and hard working (legal) immigrants will be repopulating. Let’s hope it’s enough to avoid S. Korea’s present state of affairs.
Exactly. But I can't help but be sympathetic since the evil narrative they were told (from a young age) was intentended to discourage them from procreating. It was an attack on America, and apparently, South Korea. Some of these women probably believe they are making the right
choice for a better world. They did not deserve to be lied to.
I am 50 I have three siblings in their 40s. None of us have children. Its sad. At its root it’s a reaction to the fact that our parents DID view us as a vanity item and didn’t really love us. They really hated being parents and they let us know. Looking back I don’t think I would have disliked parenthood like them but I certainly thought I would and I did not want to subject a child to that. My siblings feel the same way. I wish things were different.
Not sure the 4B movement has really had much of an effect on South Korean society. All of the trends in Korea such as the low birth rate, high housing costs, and an over qualified society (when I first arrived to live in South Korea over 90% of high school graduates attended post secondary education) were happening before 4B.
When Koreans get married the groom is expected to pay for housing. The bride is expected to pay for the furniture. Many young Koreans struggle to find a good job in their 20s and it is why many seek government jobs and work with big companies like Samsung. As a result, one needs generational wealth to get started after marriage.
Korean governments, especially at the local and regional level, have tried to reverse the birth rate through financial incentives for 20 years. It has failed to work. Based on discussions with my university students in 2017 to 2019 it will take a big cultural shift and mind shift to change the trend.
Fun fact: among my South Korean friends almost all are married and most have two to three children. Guess the cat ladies of Korea hate me..ha..ha.
Man this is breaking my heart. I see how much my parents live for their five grandchildren, how at peace they are. How happy.
Two things: first one just personal. Maybe a warning. I’m an old dad - I have three sons, but the oldest was born when I was 42. It DOES bother me, a lot, that I’m going to have few if any healthy years with grandchildren. Be warned if you’re delaying starting a family.
Second: I’m going to be a spoilsport here. Stop making fun of these kids. It doesn’t matter if they’re obnoxious, x-pilled (whatever, I don’t know the lingo), selfish, doesn’t matter. These aren’t actually barriers to having families. A few people - very few, I can’t think of any I know personally - can grow old alone and childless and be happy about it. Most will be devastated, like the non-grandparents here. It sucks and it isn’t helped by being smug dicks about it.
I disagree. Mock them mercilessly. Letting morons know that they are morons is the kindest thing you can do for them, because some may have enough relict latent reasoning ability to figure out that they are screwing up and in need of a course correction.
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4B is as creepy as the Canadian MAID doctor who claims giving her clients freedom from suffering brings her great joy. It was mentioned that women are choosing to not have children, not have sex with men, not marry men.. but I disagree. A choice made freely requires informed consent. I am guessing many 4B women have spent a lifetime rejecting the human condition due to being lied to and manipulated. That is not an informed decision. But the fact that these women make these choices in growing numbers does suggest a bigger problem. And maybe those who "choose" to not reproduce are victims of the harsh reality of survival And their traits will play out to not allow for their survival in the face of a changing environment. They will fail the " survival" challenge as so many species do when they fail to adapt in changing times. If only Grandma had seen this coming, maybe she would have raised her girls to not be guilty about overpopulating the world or having a carbon footprint.
Generally speaking, the group that culls themselves from the gene pool, may be doing humanity a favor. Rage on wenches!
Children are a gift from God. Grandchildren are a life-giving gift from God and a comfort in the years we prepare for Heaven. https://poetslife.substack.com/p/young-americans-court-fall-in-love
Woke women not breeding and making it easier for men to avoid them? I approve!
Those bald gals kinda look like Alejandro "Call Me Al" Mayorkas
One thing that struck me in the above piece was the comment: "...get an education in education" so you can teach and/or be around kids. Unless you're getting a degree from someplace like Hillsdale, you will likely just be educated in the prevailing, subversive anti-family ideology. My wife and I are childless by choice. She's a child of an acrimonious divorce, and my parents never said a word one way or the other about children. I never felt like I needed children to be fulfilled, and frankly never felt mature enough to take on the task. My regret now, at 70, is precisely that I could have raised a conservative culture warrior if I had known then what I know now. What I do know now is that we need a much more explicit pro-family policy by our government and in our public discourse. Inculcate that children are a virtue, and have economic policies in place that encourage it.
Thank you for sharing your story.
Thank you for this honesty.
It's quite clear from the photo, Elijah Birk is swimming in an estrogen stew. Soft features, moobs (man boobs) and a kitchen full of processed seed oils are evident. One can almost smell the glade plug-ins, scented detergents and fabric softeners.
And also a cat.
I agree that the shaving heads and saying they won't have sex thing is idiotic, performative, and hopefully a brief stunt that these young women will grow out of. But again... some percentage of people just don't want kids. I am fifty and I never wanted children. It's been a long time since men were raised to be husbands and fathers, and I don't put all the blame on them either. Ongoing war between the genders will never result in a happy society, or in well-adjusted children.
Well said. Peace is good for society and well-adjusted children.
What's wrong with urbanites? We're having kids out here in the sticks.
I asked exactly that question over at Owen Cass's place. I think it is yet another manifestation of America is fine but the United States isn't. People need to stop conflating the two. Let the cities die. Maybe 5 generations from now we can think about recolonization but why.
Apparently they are not having sex either?
In the field of Psychology/Human Development known as Family Systems Theory, it is considered a harbinger of family system problems manifested in individuals to see several siblings in a family not marrying/reproducing. It is signifying "evolutionary dead-end" for that family system, which is firmly against the evolutionary drive.
Of course, seeking Homeostasis is the thing. No extremes. Childlessness indicates problems of one kind or another, but so does far too many children who cannot be reasonably supported by the parents. The Middle Way is where you want to go.
That being said, we definitely have an evolutionary problem with childlessness and ending family systems in developed countries. It is more an emotional/psychological problem than an economic problem. In the Great Depression of the 1930s, people were still having large families and finding ways to get through.
OK, Yuri. If you are having a snit-fit today in making a point of leaving your little red hearts on every post except mine....you are no better in your resentment and bitterness than those women you are writing about.
Why so resentful? Because I write the truth? And I back it up? Isn't that what you supposedly admire, rather than resent? Aren't you being contrary to your own beliefs?
There are too many "conservative" Substacks where the authors react in exactly the same way as the WOKE if you present a point of view that does not entirely reflect their own. Or adds to it. They usually use the same cancel culture tactics of calling you out or shunning you, and then banning.
Well Yuri, the only solace I take (regularly) is that those that aren’t reproducing won’t be passing on the likely transmissible mind virus to another generation. Mostly based gigachads and based tradwives and hard working (legal) immigrants will be repopulating. Let’s hope it’s enough to avoid S. Korea’s present state of affairs.
Exactly. But I can't help but be sympathetic since the evil narrative they were told (from a young age) was intentended to discourage them from procreating. It was an attack on America, and apparently, South Korea. Some of these women probably believe they are making the right
choice for a better world. They did not deserve to be lied to.
These ideas are loci of bitterness and resentment and anti-human feeling.
https://jmpolemic.substack.com/p/the-philosophy-of-bitterness?r=1neg52
I am 50 I have three siblings in their 40s. None of us have children. Its sad. At its root it’s a reaction to the fact that our parents DID view us as a vanity item and didn’t really love us. They really hated being parents and they let us know. Looking back I don’t think I would have disliked parenthood like them but I certainly thought I would and I did not want to subject a child to that. My siblings feel the same way. I wish things were different.
Not sure the 4B movement has really had much of an effect on South Korean society. All of the trends in Korea such as the low birth rate, high housing costs, and an over qualified society (when I first arrived to live in South Korea over 90% of high school graduates attended post secondary education) were happening before 4B.
When Koreans get married the groom is expected to pay for housing. The bride is expected to pay for the furniture. Many young Koreans struggle to find a good job in their 20s and it is why many seek government jobs and work with big companies like Samsung. As a result, one needs generational wealth to get started after marriage.
Korean governments, especially at the local and regional level, have tried to reverse the birth rate through financial incentives for 20 years. It has failed to work. Based on discussions with my university students in 2017 to 2019 it will take a big cultural shift and mind shift to change the trend.
Fun fact: among my South Korean friends almost all are married and most have two to three children. Guess the cat ladies of Korea hate me..ha..ha.
Man this is breaking my heart. I see how much my parents live for their five grandchildren, how at peace they are. How happy.
Two things: first one just personal. Maybe a warning. I’m an old dad - I have three sons, but the oldest was born when I was 42. It DOES bother me, a lot, that I’m going to have few if any healthy years with grandchildren. Be warned if you’re delaying starting a family.
Second: I’m going to be a spoilsport here. Stop making fun of these kids. It doesn’t matter if they’re obnoxious, x-pilled (whatever, I don’t know the lingo), selfish, doesn’t matter. These aren’t actually barriers to having families. A few people - very few, I can’t think of any I know personally - can grow old alone and childless and be happy about it. Most will be devastated, like the non-grandparents here. It sucks and it isn’t helped by being smug dicks about it.
I disagree. Mock them mercilessly. Letting morons know that they are morons is the kindest thing you can do for them, because some may have enough relict latent reasoning ability to figure out that they are screwing up and in need of a course correction.
Excellent piece... Mind virus!
4B is as creepy as the Canadian MAID doctor who claims giving her clients freedom from suffering brings her great joy. It was mentioned that women are choosing to not have children, not have sex with men, not marry men.. but I disagree. A choice made freely requires informed consent. I am guessing many 4B women have spent a lifetime rejecting the human condition due to being lied to and manipulated. That is not an informed decision. But the fact that these women make these choices in growing numbers does suggest a bigger problem. And maybe those who "choose" to not reproduce are victims of the harsh reality of survival And their traits will play out to not allow for their survival in the face of a changing environment. They will fail the " survival" challenge as so many species do when they fail to adapt in changing times. If only Grandma had seen this coming, maybe she would have raised her girls to not be guilty about overpopulating the world or having a carbon footprint.